Wednesday 7 September 2016

#IWSG post--is our writing ever good enough? There's help out there!

Aren't we all somewhat insecure about our writing? Well, duh, that's the whole point of IWSG!  I've never yet met a writer who wasn't stricken with self-doubt somewhere along the line. So a perfect antidote is to attend a masterclass with someone whose past students got published after attending her classes and many ended up on the New York Times Best-selling List. I could live with that!

Facebookers amongst us will know that I've been attending a Margie Lawson Immersion Class for 5 days, where 8 lucky writers who were the first to sign up spent 12 hours a day learning at the seat of the master editor and make-your-novel-amazing Margie from Colorado.

The mornings were spent learning how to make our manuscripts sing louder, through more visceral writing and amplification, and the afternoons were spent writing, analyzing our manuscripts and the biggie--one-on-one sessions with Margie.

Absorbing her edit system (which of course I can't share due to copyright) was the most awesome thing about the retreat, held in a gorgeous home in a leafy suburb of Brisbane. I also picked up 2 fab critique partners, both romance writers.

Margie has asked me to host an Immersion Class at our beach house in March '17. I'm considering it.

No, Margie didn't hire me as her publicist, but I'm so excited about what I've learned that I thought I'd share it for the #IWSG.

So I'll just share one example of mine with you. You have to have a ms under your arm when you turn up. I brought along my 45,000 word ms for 'Carpe Diem---Love and Art in Paris' (WORKING TITLE).  I never got further than a few pages with Margie as she was bursting her creativity all over those opening pages (and my major turning point). I went away from the one-on-one and rewrote my opening line...and my first two chapters several times.

Here's the opening line on my original ms:

OPENING LINE:

The stranger props himself on a bar stool in front of me like he owns the place.

(cringe-worthy much?)

REWORKING:

I watch the tall Frenchman push his way into Marcel’s Bar in Pigalle, Paris’s naughty end of town.

(After a session with Margie. Less cringe-worthy?)

Now, it still has room for improvement, of course, writing always does, but now that I've been Margie-fied, I have learned a few more ways to tempt the reader.

NOW after visiting other IWSGers, I see I was supposed to answer the question: how do I find the time to write in my busy day...well, lately I've been getting up early and writing for a couple of hours before anyone else wakes up...it's just me, my laptop and the sea view. Then I grab two hour sessions throughout the day. I'd say at the moment I'm averaging about six hours a day writing. That's what Hemingway did, and Dean Koontz does...

Thanks a whole bunch of koalas, Margie!

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84 comments:

Alex J. Cavanaugh said...

Sounds like that retreat is exactly what you and your writing needed! I'm afraid I've never been to one.

Hilary Melton-Butcher said...

Hi Denise - sounds like you lots of fun ... and yes, I prefer your second version!! I've never attended a writer's retreat - that MS to turn up with - would be a wee challenge ... mind you my blog posts would do I guess!! No - they'd need to co-joined somehow ..

Cheers and enjoy absorbing and applying all you've learnt - looks like a great group though .. Hilary

Pat Garcia said...

Denise,
I can tell it was a great learning experience for you. I have not attended an immersion session yet, but I want to. There are so many things you can learn from a small group session that is a week long. And it is amazing how your eyes are opened when it is a fantastic editor like Margie. I am so happy you had a rewarding time.
Thanks for sharing.
Shalom aleichem,
Pat Garcia

Mason Canyon said...

The writing retreat sounds like fun and a great way to energize your creativity.

Thoughts in Progress
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Bish Denham said...

I had the pleasure of going to one writer's retreat with Jane Yolen. It was wonderful. I'd love to go to another one. Margie's sounds like a winner.

L. Diane Wolfe said...

I wish I could attend her retreat. One on one time like that with someone who is an expert is priceless.

Laura Clipson said...

Sounds like that retreat was fantastic! It must be great to get one-on-one time with someone who has so much experience.

emaginette said...

Looks like the retreat was well worth it. Love the revision. :-)

Anna from elements of emaginette

Madeline Mora-Summonte said...

How inspiring! I went to a weeklong conference/class on craft a few years ago and loved being immersed in my work and being able to talk shop with fellow writers and those in the publishing business.

cleemckenzie said...

We should be paid each time we rewrite the opening lines of our stories. I could buy a big boat if that happened. Congrats on those changes and those improvements.

C.D. Gallant-King said...

Always wanted to try a writing retreat/conference. Glad to hear yours was so positive!

IWSG September

Sheena-kay Graham said...

This retreat seems to have been helpful. I love the new opening sentence. The old one made me just think the character was a douche to be honest. Glad you got the help and keep working on your MS.

Yolanda Renée said...

Such an excellent change. I know why you're touting Margie, love it. Wish I could attend the session at your beach house. You know you're going to do it. :) Writing classes are such fun, especially the friendships that result!

Michael Di Gesu said...

Hi, Denise,

I just LOVE your enthusiasm in the post~ It's awesome that you walked away with so much...

I need to go to a class like that...

I finally FINISHED my loft! Pics at my blog when you get a chance. I decided to sell it and move on. Just not an inspiring place for me. I realized that a view is everything to me and I can't live in a space without one.

Denise Covey said...

Have visited Michael. Fantastic pics. A view is everything to me, too.

Denise Covey said...

I wish you could fly over next year, Yolanda! What a hoot we'd have!

Denise Covey said...

Yeah, I agree, which wasn't fair on him.

Denise Covey said...

It was the best!!!

Denise Covey said...

Yeah, Lee, then how much per chapter re-write?

Denise Covey said...

It'd be great to be able to do something like that every year!

Denise Covey said...

Thank you! There's still something that worries me, but I'll get there.

Denise Covey said...

It was, Laura. The best experience.

Denise Covey said...

Beyond awesome, L Diane.

Denise Covey said...

Margie is a winner. I've tried some of her online courses for years. Was great to meet her and work with her.

Denise Covey said...

It was Mason.

Denise Covey said...

You would love it, Pat. I hope you get to do it!

Shalom aleichem!

Denise Covey said...

I did Hilary. You should have no trouble turning out 45,000 words! Link a few blog posts together and you're done LOL! Nevertheless, it's a wonderful experience!

Olga Godim said...

Your retreat sounds terrific. You seem to be doing fine for time as well, judging by the results. Glad your novel is going well. One day, it will become a bestseller, mark my words.

Lynda R Young as Elle Cardy said...

Wow, that retreat sounds super awesome. That change to your first sentence is amazing. I might be able to join you for the March retreat. I'm hoping I will have moved to Brissy by then.

Botanist said...

Six hours a day? That's impressive going, Denise. And glad you had such an amazing time on that retreat.

Roland D. Yeomans said...

As Botanist writes: 6 hours a day is intense! But like Alex, I have never gone to a retreat. No time, and I am a solitary kind of man. Great that you got so much out of your time there!

Denise Covey said...

Thanks for your vote of confidence Olga! Wouldn't that be nice!

Denise Covey said...

Woo hoo, that'd be wonderful! It'd be great to do it every year! Glad you like the second sentence best.

Denise Covey said...

Well, I've got a lot of kiddie time to make up for Ian! I'm loving the new attitude.

Denise Covey said...

Heh, Roland, I'm a solitary kind of a woman, but occasionally, for a good cause, I'll pop my head out of my shell. This was way worth it!

Unknown said...

Margie sounds wonderful! You should definitely host an immersion class. Think how much you and others can learn. 6 hrs per day writing is awesome. When I'm surging forward, I do about 8 hrs, but I honestly don't "surge" all that often. :P

Nas said...

Doing six hours a day sounds good. And I want to do immersion with Margie Lawson. Thanks for sharing about it.

Nilanjana Bose said...

That sounds positively divine. I've never been to a retreat, would totally love to! If and when. Not likely in near future with kiddo in exam mode.

Susan Flett Swiderski said...

Wow, that class sounds phenomenal.

I write in the early mornings, too, but if I had an ocean view in front of me, I'm afraid I wouldn't get much writing done. :)

Michelle Wallace said...

Denise, I'm soooo excited to read that Carpe Diem is now at 45,000 words!
*Whoop of excitement & doing a happy dance* (At the moment, I'm home alone...)
That masterclass sounds AWESOME! I love the revised opening line...amazing.

I would LOVE to go on a writing retreat. I've discovered a few good ones this end of the globe, which I'm investigating. They ARE a bit pricey though. We'll see...

H. R. Sinclair said...

How exciting. The image of her bursting creativity all over the opening pages is funny! I'm glad it went well.

Denise Covey said...

If I don't host it, Lexa, I'll be attending again! Once a year would be good!

Denise Covey said...

It was phenomenal Susan! Ah, the ocean inspires me!

Denise Covey said...

Hey Michelle, you'll definitely be on the Acknowledgements page! Thank you for suggesting I opened my short story up. Look at it!! Must be nearly time for you to have another read!

I hope you do get to a writing retreat. Yes, pricey for sure, but totally worth it if you can afford it!

Denise Covey said...

Yes, she's a bursting sort of gal!

Jemi Fraser said...

What fun! I'd love to attend a workshop like that one day!!

Chrys Fey said...

Hey Denise! I'm glad you were able to rewrite the beginning of your book. What you gained from that masterclass sounds like it's working amazingly for you. I've always wanted to go on a writing retreat.

The IWSG question is optional, in case members struggle with a post. :)

Oh, and I didn't have a say in the announcement or deadlines dates for the anthology. For me, I wouldn't be able to write something new and polish it so quickly, but I sure hope that other writers can. I think the anthology will turn out great, though. :)

Michael Di Gesu said...

Count me in too, Ladies! It would be AWESOME!

Michael Di Gesu said...

I am so happy you have your DREAM view.. You must send me pics SOON!

Denise Covey said...

I'd recommend a masterclass to any writer, Chrys. Okay about the anthology. Just think it definitely isn't enough time if you're creating a new story. :-)

Denise Covey said...

I hope you do Jemi!

N. R. Williams said...

Hi Denise
Small world. I know Margie. She is a member of Rocky Mountain Fiction Writers. I used to be. I've attended sessions with her at Colorado Gold Writers Conference here in Denver held in Sept. So I know about her editing style though I don't use it. I am so glad she inspired you. If I ever get teeth I'll have to take her class. The husband needs an operation so once more I must wait.
Nancy

Denise Covey said...

I kept meaning to ask her if she knew you Nancy. I hope you get those teeth soon!

Denise Covey said...

It was. I hope you get to attend something like it!

Denise Covey said...

Heh, heh. I will.

Shannon Lawrence said...

How cool to be asked to host a class! I'm glad you got a ton out of this master class.

Denise Covey said...

Yes, Shannon. I did!

Deborah Drucker said...

Sounds like a lot of fun. The October Challenge sounds interesting, too. :)

farawayeyes said...

I don't know Margie Lawson, but after reading your post, I want to. I need some serious help with motivation and inspiration and that's what I'm doing hopping around the IWSG - looking for some. I will head over to her website and check out more. Thanks for the tip. This may have been my most productive stop of the day.

Also, going to check out your WEP link. story that constellations figure into nicely. Thank you very much.

grams ramblings said...

Hi Denise, the writing retreat with Margie sounds like it was just what you needed to get to grips with your writing. I would love to do something like that. And I'm so impressed with your work discipline - six hours a day, WOW!!!

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Denise Covey said...

How lovely! I'm sure you'll get some inspiration from Margie's editing system. And how lovely if you join WEP for CONSTELLATIONS.

Denise Covey said...

hELLO Marian! Took me a long time to get there, but here I want to stay!

Denise Covey said...

It'd be great if you could join us, Deborah!

Yvonne Ventresca said...

Sounds like an amazing retreat, Denise!

Thanks for stopping by my blog.
Yvonne V

Denise Covey said...

It was, Yvonne! Thanks for visiting me!

Denise Covey said...

I can see in the future a big meeting in Australia of one Michael di Gesu, Yolanda Renee, Nilanjana Bose, Donna Hole...wouldn't that be nice????

Dianne K. Salerni said...

Holy cow! Three two-hour sessions and six hours a day?!?!
I wish I could achieve that! And theoretically, it's possible. But since it took 3 days for me to get the idea that will (hopefully) drive my next chapter in the direction the story needs to go, I'm not sure I can push it. Sadly, my process seems to need gaps. :(

Denise Covey said...

Hi Dianne. Took me lots of time to work out this program. I'm determined to finish this novel i'm loving so much and that's a serious amount of work with the amount of changes I always make!!

Denise Covey said...

Six hours a day is AWESOME, getting ready for the days when I get none done!

Denise Covey said...

Yep. I'm all inspired again!

Natalie Aguirre said...

Glad you got so much out of your writing retreat. I like to write early in the morning too.

dolorah said...

I haven't been to a writers conference in years. I'd love to do a retreat with someone fabulous like Margie. Finding time for that is about as elusive as finding writing time, lol. Sounds like it is helping you.

Awesome.

Nas said...

Hi Denise! How awesome that you had positive time at the Immersion. I took so much away from my Immersion and hoped you would too.

Denise Covey said...

Thanks Nas.

Denise Covey said...

Time is always the thing, Donna.

Denise Covey said...

That's the best time for many people, when the old brain is buzzing!

Nola Passmore said...

It was great sharing the immersion class with you, Denise. I've been busy sin ce the immersion, but am launching into it again today. So much Margie-fying to go. I think it will take me a year to apply all the lessons :) Hope the rest of your manuscript sizzles along.

Denise Covey said...

Thanks for stopping by, Nola. It won't be for lack of trying if it fizzles instead of sizzles!

H. R. Sinclair said...

Sorry the video didn't work for ya. The tip was between every scene should be a "therefore" or a "but", never an "and then". :)

Denise Covey said...

Thanks so much for that!

Tamara Narayan said...

I love "Paris's naughty end of town." That speaks volumes. Golden phrase.

Denise Covey said...

Thanks Tamara. It just popped into my head.

Ann Carbine Best said...

Wow, dear friend. What great experiences you are having. You really are at your peak right now in your life with writing and blogging - everything. Margie sounds awesome. Ah, first lines. Never could do them. The reworked one definitely NOT cringe-worthy. BTW, I'm finally settling permanently on Blogger for reasons I won't go into here, probably never. The WP one is still up and will just sit. So I finally got a post for the new blogspot, which is why I'm so late getting here. So again I apologize for "if you'll follow me there." :) You're an incredibly patient sister! ((( ))) from me and Jen

Ann Carbine Best said...

p.s. So glad Halloween is added to the WEP for October. I have something for that, but couldn't have done the other one. Looking forward to it - and still hoping to soon see a sequel to Tuscan Moon :)